诡秘外国网友评论节选意译 - 【930-932】

【930章（不死者-198章）曾经的组织】
MondSemmel
You're all taking Anderson Hood at face value, and maybe he *is* speaking the truth, but don't forget this Provocator's tendency to troll. When he originally met Gehrman Sparrow in the dream world, he told a grand tale that turned out to be a lie, and as a result almost got killed or left for dead by Sparrow...
你们都太相信安德森·胡德表面上的形象了，他也许*有*说实话，但不要忘记，这个挑衅者一直很爱耍人玩。他最初在梦境世界里见到格尔曼·斯帕罗的时候，他编了一个宏大的故事，结果发现全是谎言，而且最后差点被斯帕罗因此杀掉，或者说是勉强留了他一命……

（回复楼上）Alessan
Not too much of a surprise that the True Creator has control over some of the Hunter Pathway since ‘He’ used to be close allies with Medici before ascending to become a god. Medici didn’t die till later on either so it can reasonably be assumed they maintained their relationship even after that. Hunter pathway is pretty widespread too with the Sauron, Einhorn and Medici families all having access to high sequence potions as well as sharing some formulas with their (Intis, Feysac) governments.

I’ve also wondered why even if they Gods have potions they rarely develop organizations or believers of Pathways other than their own and especially Pathways that don’t connect. Just like the Evernight Church refusing to develop Seer Pathway beyonders and evening hiding the fact they have the formulas from lower leveled members. It seems like the True Creator is the only exception to this rule as we now know he has subordinates belonging to all of the Secrets Suppliant, apprentice and Hunter Pathways at minimum.

真实造物主控制了部分猎人途径也毫不意外，因为“祂”成神之前和梅迪奇以前曾经是亲近的盟友。梅迪奇那时候还没死，后来才死的，所以我们可以合理假定他们在那之后也保持着一定的关系。猎人途径的传播范围也很广，索伦、艾因霍恩还有梅迪奇家族都能获取到高序列魔药配方，同时还给他们统治下的z*府（因蒂斯，弗萨克）分享了一部分配方。
我也曾经想过，为什么即使他们这些神手里有魔药，他们也很少发展在自己途径之外的组织或者信徒，尤其是和自己途径不相邻的途径。就像黑夜教会拒绝提拔占卜家途径的非凡者，甚至对低阶成员隐瞒他们手里有低序列配方的事情。现在看来，真造可能是这里唯一的例外，因为我们现在知道他的手下至少包括所有的秘祈人，还有一小部分的学徒和猎人途径。
Tetractys
Um, okay. Didn't expect that coming. However, since there are different factions maybe the Aurora Order and the Iron and Blood Cross Order are at odds with each other?

Most importantly, Anderson Hood has a good relationship with the Church of Steam, so the Iron and Blood Cross Order might not be evil.
嗯，好吧。完全没想到这个展开。不过，既然会分成不同的组织，也许极光会和铁血十字会是彼此互斥的？更重要的是，安德森·胡德和蒸汽教会的关系很好，所以铁血十字会也许不是什么邪恶组织。
（回复楼上）Tetractys
(Continued) maybe the Iron and Blood Cross Order isn't evil. Also, Anderson Hood doesn't behave like a "normal believer" of the Fallen Creator. That is, he doesn't act like a crazy person.
（接上条）也许铁血十字会不是什么邪恶组织。而且，安德森·胡德的举止表现也不像一个真实造物主的“普通信徒”。我的意思是，他看起来不像个疯子。

（回复楼上）Looogan
You forget that Anderson mysteriously survived that weird incident with the dreams and etc. while all the others lost control and turned into monsters.. maybe he didn’t go crazy because he already is! Not to mention he seems to be working unknowingly for a demigod or an angel of some pathway that can manipulate memories
你忘了安德森从一起诡异的梦境事件中神奇地生存下来的事情吗，其他人全都失控了，变成了怪物……也许他没有疯掉只是因为他已经疯了！更不用说他似乎在不知不觉中为一个能操纵记忆的途径的半神或者天使做事了……
（回复一楼）Alessan
Just because an organization worships or believes in something doesnt mean all the members do. Roselle didn’t share the same goal of reviving the Creator with the Twilight Hermit Order but he was still a member who was permitted to see the Blasphemy Slate.

一个组织崇拜或者信仰某种东西可不意味着它所有的成员都如此。罗赛尔就和黄昏隐士会的人目标完全不同，他并不想复活最初的造物主。但他依然是黄昏隐士会的一员，而且被允许观看了亵渎石板。
chillytaka
Coming Soon !
The revenge of the Fool
Main Cast : Klein Moretti, Sherlock Moriarty, Gherman Sparrow, Leonard Mitchell, Daly Simone, Ince Zangwill, Sealed Artifact 0-08
Supporting Cast : Soest, Red Gloves, The Evernight Goddess,...
Synopsis :
That day, he lose a dear friend to him. The killer, equipped with a stolen Sealed Artifact 0-08 able to escape from the scene while leaving dead bodies around.

Klein, once a normal person turned to a hunter able to rise from his death and start his investigation in the name of revenge for his fallen friends
Now, A grand play that bringing disruptive changes to the world is happening, will Klein be able to close the story of revenge or Ince will be the one to close the curtain ??
即将上映！
愚者的复仇
主演：克莱恩·莫雷蒂，夏洛克·莫里亚蒂，格尔曼·斯帕罗，伦纳德·米切尔，戴莉·西蒙妮，因斯·赞格威尔，封印物0-08
配角：索斯特，红手套们，黑夜女神，……
剧情简介：那天，他失去了一个最亲近的朋友。那个凶手带着偷来的封印物0-08逃离现场，只留下满地横尸。

克莱恩，曾经只是一个普通人的他，从好友死亡的阴影中重新振作，成为了一名猎人，同时以为死去的好友复仇的名义开启了调查之旅。
现在，一场即将颠覆世界的盛大戏剧将要上演，究竟是克莱恩为这个复仇故事画上圆满的句号，还是因斯会成为能在这舞台上站到谢幕的人？
【931章（不死者-199章）获取情报的新方法】
Bellmount
News from China (no spoiler): the author finished Volume 6 last night, and he claimed that he had written the settings of every region at the beginning, but he did not want to write all details about every country IN THIS BOOK, or that will be too repeated and miscellaneous. Instead, he will write a sequel to carry out storylines in other regions, e.g. the West continent. But he might not write that sequel right after LoTM, since he had other insights to write...XD Anyway, it’s good to have something more to expect, since it seems like LoTM will be completed by May or June. :(

中国那边传来的新消息（无剧透）：作者昨晚完结了第六卷，而且他说他一开始就把所有地区的设定全都做好了，但并不打算在这本书里把所有细节都写出来，不然内容就太重复太杂乱了。相反，他会写一部故事线接在这本书之后的发生在其他区域的续集，比如西大陆。不过续集可能并不会直接在诡秘完结后开始，因为他还有些别的想法要写……XD不管怎么说，能有点盼头总是好的，虽然看起来诡秘要在五月或者六月就完结了:(
（回复楼上）BluebellBerry:
I'm excited and sad all at once. Ty for the info!!
这消息让我喜忧参半。感谢提供消息！ 
（回复楼上）Baphonmet
Add some info I known：
He committed to work LOTM Trilogy（at least work the second one）
LOTM II maybe a sequel，or looking at Klein's struggle from the perspective of others.

LOTM III will be staged in the Western Continent another《LOTM》with oriental style.
再加一些我知道的消息：
作者确认诡秘应该会有三部曲（至少会有第二部）
诡秘二可能会是诡秘一的续集，或者会换个其他人的角度来旁观克莱恩的努力和挣扎的过程。
诡秘三会以西大陆为舞台展开，是东方风格的诡秘之主。
Alessan
Feels bad to miss a tarot gathering even if not much happened.
没有塔罗会部分的感觉真的很不好，即使这次基本都没啥内容。
Aby55
Well Klein just got a direct response from the Evernight Goddess! Maybe she's the real waifu
呃，克莱恩竟然得到了黑夜女神的直接回应！也许她是真正的老婆
（回复楼上）BurntCabbage

If attracting the attention of a goddess is all it takes to get a waifu, then the Mother Tree of Desire or even Primordial Demoness Cheek could be a cadidate. The direct response he would get if he prayed to them would probably be pretty intense.
如果只要吸引到女神的注意力女神就算老婆了的话，那欲望母树或者甚至是原初魔女奇克也可以算是老婆候选啊。他如果向她们祈祷的话肯定能得到直接回应，也许还会是相当强烈的反应。
Alessan
Damn I can’t believe that actually worked
我去，我简直不敢相信这招真的管用
4pmbookstack
so that's why Ince Zangwill was pursued by a Demigod from Hunter's pathway when he aboard the ship. the demigod was attracted to him cause of the Law of convergence and Red Angel Medici

所以这就是因斯·赞格威尔之前在上船的时候被猎人途径的半神追杀的原因啊。那个半神是被他身上的红天使梅迪奇和非凡特性聚合定律吸引过来的。
Tetractys:
Since Ince Zangwell is possessed by former Red Angel Medici, and the spirit has the Red Priest Card, would Danitz and Anderson Hood be attracted to Zangwell due to the law of convergence?
既然因斯·赞格威尔被前·红天使梅迪奇给附身了，而这个恶灵还有红祭司牌，达尼兹和安德森·胡德会不会因为非凡特性聚合定律被吸引到赞格威尔面前？
（回复楼上）Aby55
Did they mention this before or did you deduct this? Or did you *shudder* use spoilers
他们之前提过这件事吗？这是你的推理？还是你*颤抖*剧透了？

（回复楼上） Tetractys
Ince Zangewell has been possessed, Ince Zangwell has lost portions of his memories and had dirt under his fingernails due to 0-08, the identity of the spirit in the underground cavern was suspected to be former Red Angel Medici by Klein, the spirit tempted Klein and Sharon with the Red Priest Card, the spirit has vanished, Danitz and Anderson are known to be of the same pathway, the Hunter pathway which leads to Red Priest.
The only thing not confirmed is if the spirit possessing Ince Zangwell is Medici. Everything else has been shown in previous chapters.

因斯·赞格威尔被附身了，因斯·赞格威尔因为0-08的缘故失去了部分记忆，然后发现自己的手指上残余着很多土壤的污垢痕迹，克莱恩怀疑地下洞*里那个恶灵的身份是前·红天使梅迪奇，那个恶灵用红祭司牌来引诱克莱恩和莎伦，然后那个恶灵消失了。已知达尼兹和安德森也是猎人途径的，这正是红祭司的途径。
唯一一件没有确认的事情就是，这个附身了因斯·赞格威尔的恶灵到底是不是梅迪奇。其他内容前面的章节都提到过了。
（回复楼上）Amathyn
It's also important to remmeber that 0-01 has living characteristics that mean it will try to kill it's current wilder over time. Medici is probably its latest wat of achieving Ince's death.
还有一件重要的事值得注意，0-01有活着的特性，这意味着它会试图杀死它现在的主人。梅迪奇也许是它用来造成因斯死亡的杀手锏。

（回复一楼）Alessan
The convergence (from the card) is only able to be felt by demigods. They shouldn’t be attracted unless Medici does something on purpose.
（亵渎之牌的）聚合效果只有半神以上才会有感应。除非梅迪奇故意的，否则他们不会被吸引过去的。
Surely_Panda
I know I should be creeped put by Enzo who is basically a human shaped furniture at this point but for some reason watching Klein and Enzo just crack me up. Maybe it like watching a overworked CEO and a fawning yes man doing whatever the boss want.
Also what is the Goddess' end game here? Say she consumed death as another one of her domain bit won't all the excess power led to madness. Or does she intend on raising a "vassal" god?

我知道我现在应该被恩佐吓得毛骨悚然，因为他现在基本上就是一件人形家具，但不知为何，看到现在的克莱恩和恩佐的样子，我简直要笑裂了。也许是因为我感觉就像在看一个谄媚的马屁精正在想尽方法讨好他累瘫了的CEO吧。
而且，女神最终的目的到底是什么？如果说她想要把死亡作为她掌控的下一个领域，但不是所有多余的特性都会导致疯狂吗。或者她想要养出一个“附庸”神？
【932章（不死者-200章）脸皮较薄】
MondSemmel
I wonder why Pallez Zoroast went silent. Klein Moretti might have made a huge mistake, revealing significant information about Dwayne Dantès and Mr. Fool, including their comparative lack of strength. At the very least, by asking Leonard for Worms of Time, it becomes very likely that Mr. Fool and his believers don't include any high-level members of the Marauder pathway. This significantly narrows down their secret identities, pathways and abilities to the experienced and ancient Pallez Zoroast.

(And conversely, if Pallez Zoroast provides such Worms of Time, *he* might be making a mistake, since Mr. Fool might be able to eventually use them to remove this Parasite from Leonard.)
不知道为什么帕列斯·索罗亚斯德会沉默。克莱恩·莫雷蒂可能的确犯了一个大错误，暴露了某些关于道恩·唐泰斯还有愚者先生的重要信息，可能还有他们现在其实相对来说实力较低的现状。最起码，问伦纳德要时之虫，这就意味着愚者先生和他手下的信徒中并不包括任何偷盗者途径的高序列。这对经验丰富而且古老的帕列兹·索罗亚斯德来说，他们所谓的秘密身份，途径还有能力的范围一下子就被大大缩小了。
（而且反过来说，如果帕列斯·索罗亚斯德真的给了时之虫，那*他*可能也是犯了一个错误，因为这样愚者也许就能利用这些时之虫来把伦纳德身上的寄生者赶出去了。）
（回复楼上）Surely_Panda

Or it could be interpreted as both a warning and admonition. It can be viewed as Klein pointing out that this is not a two men operation and rather than Klein calling in favoring, already a big on by appealing to the Fool, Meonard should pony up some resources. The resources being works of time, Klein can be see as saying "yes, I talked to Dantes and know who is backing Leonard. I know your power set so don't try anything funny"
或者这可以被认为是一个警告和告诫。克莱恩这句话听起来就像是点明了这次行动不止是一次两人联合行动，克莱恩已经用眷者身份呼叫了大佬，愚者已经在这次事件投入力量了，那伦纳德也理应出一些资源。这个资源就是时之虫，克莱恩感觉就像是在说“没错，我和唐泰斯聊过了，我知道伦纳德背后站的人是谁。我知道你的技能都有啥，所以别搞什么花样” 

Old_Wolf
Can’t wait for Ince zangwill to be sacrifice for Klein’s promotion and for that bittersweet revenge. The irony would be perfect
迫不及待想看因斯·赞格威尔成为克莱恩晋级仪式的牺牲品了，这甜美而苦涩的复仇啊。这种戏剧感一定很棒
（回复楼上）BluebellBerry
Been waiting a long time for this! I mean he actually "killed" the mc! Definitely didn't see it coming
我已经等这一天很久了！我是说，自从他“杀”了主角那天起！那次真是绝对没想到 
Tetractys
Uh oh, Mr. Grandpa has some explaining to do~
呃哦，老爷爷接下来得想想如何解释了~
（回复楼上）Alessan

What does he have to explain? I think Leonard has known about many of his powers and his rough level for awhile now. Leonard had him use the Worm of Time to track Emlyn before as well.
他有什么好解释的？我觉得伦纳德对于他能使用的很多能力和他大概的层次已经有不少了解了。伦纳德自己之前也让他用时之虫追踪过埃姆林啊。
MondSemmel
Wow, Ince Zangwill's position is worse off than I thought. We knew about the evil spirit beforehand, who obviously isn't necessarily on Ince's side, but it's news that Ince is in the Southern continent with no assistance from the royal faction and the Demonesses. He may be a sequence 4 demigod with tremendously powerful support from 0-08 and the remnant evil spirit made of multiple angels (as in, assistance on the level of sequence 1s or 2s), but his situation is *really* precarious, considering both the Tarot Club and an entire Church are targetting him.

哇哦，因斯·赞格威尔的处境比我之前想象的还要糟糕啊。之前我们就知道恶灵的事情，他显然不一定是和因斯一条心的，但因斯在南大陆毫无助力，既没有皇派的帮助，也没有魔女的协助，这可就是个新消息了。他作为序列4半神，手中有威力极强的0-08辅助，还有多名天使残片融合的恶灵（这大概等同于序列1或序列2级别的辅助吧），但考虑到塔罗会和整个黑夜教会都在追杀他，他的状况也是*真的*很危急啊。
sunrize:
What if the goddess manipulated behind the scenes from the very beginning? Don't you remember how that entire story began? There was a crimson moon in the skies (which is evernight goddess symbol), the place of rebirth was selected that it was in the area of nighthawks. There is azik's sorry too. Then there is a vow to the sacred sword and our mc entered the ranks of god believers. But are evil gods and 7 orthodox ones are such different? It isn't easy to escape god's eyes once you become it's believer (the latest events confirm it). So in my opinion the greatest enemy in the later chapters will be the evernight goddess

如果黑夜女神从一开始就在幕后操纵了一切呢？你们都不记得整个故事是怎么开始的了吗？天空中挂着红月（而这正是黑夜女神的标志），他重生的位置正好被选择在了值夜者管辖的区域。当然也是阿兹克的位置，抱歉。然后就是对女神的圣剑发誓的部分了，主角因此进入了神明信徒的行列。但其他的邪神和七位正神究竟有有什么不同？一旦成了信徒，想要逃过神明的眼睛可就没那么容易了（最近的事件完全证明了这一点）。所以在我看来，最后几章里最大的敌人肯定就是黑夜女神
（回复楼上）Dex2
You're assuming a lot. So far, she hasn't shown herself as an enemy. Let me use some examples:
✔ She saved him when fighting Mr. A and even smiled at him
✔ She "disciplined" him when he broke in to steal from the church and banished him to that foggy town.

But while he was there, when Panatiya was about to kill him, the crimson moon appeared and she had to flee hence giving Klein a chance.
We know the goddess has some authority over the moon.
✔ Through her monitoring of him, she could respond quickly and save him when Azik was about to merge with artificial death.
Even though she benefited by taking the uniqueness in the end, she did give Azik the choice of continuing to merge.
Even now, she has answered his question through artificial death which she is in control of.

Think of what Orange Light, Hilarion told Klein: high level beings that can detect his unique trait are of two types,
⏩ those who want to take control like mother tree
⏩ those who simply see his potential and want to be friendly
I'm not saying it's impossible she has other schemes but to suspect her that much when she has been friendly doesn't seem right. It's better to have Klein's attitude (use the benefits but be careful)
你想的也太多了。目前为止，她并没有表现出任何敌意啊。我来举几个例子：

✔她在克莱恩和A先生战斗的时候救下了他，甚至还给了他一个微笑
✔克莱恩闯入教堂盗窃的时候，她小小地“惩戒”了一下他，把他放逐到了那个浓雾小镇。但克莱恩在里面的时候，潘娜蒂亚一想杀他，里面的红月就会出现，然后她就不得不立刻逃走，才给克莱恩喘息的机会。我们都知道这正是黑夜女神的标志。
✔通过她对他的监控，她才能快速做出反应，在阿兹克即将被人造死神融合的时候救下他。虽然她最后也的确因为得到唯一性获得了好处，她也给了阿兹克继续进行融合的选择啊。即使是现在，她也会通过自己控制的人造死神来回答他的问题。
想想橙光希拉里昂对克莱恩说的：能发现他特异之处的高阶存在有两种，
⏩ 想要控制他的，比如母树
⏩ 因为只是单纯地看中了他的潜力，想要与他交好的
我也不是说她不可能有什么阴谋，但在她一直表现的很友好的情况下，这么怀疑她好像不太好吧。最好还是保持克莱恩这样的态度（在享受这些好处的同时保持谨慎）